Author Topic: A real TAS topic (Read 39679 times)

Wyst3r · « **Reply #500 on:** December 28, 2009, 07:41:00 am »

There's also the possibility of running a bit away from the corner and then turn on first frame possible, creating the same effect that bicyclers use. I'm not entirely sure which is faster but i think the normal method i first mentioned is fastest(or equal).

meka · « **Reply #501 on:** January 12, 2010, 08:39:00 am »

Defection SA 0:40 (no glitch). I also uploaded a Tranquilizer Gold 5.37 which I made a year ago.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #502 on:** January 12, 2010, 09:59:00 pm »

Hahah, that tranquilizer was awesome. Pretty cool defection run too, the details could do some work but it was entertaining at least which is good.

meka · « **Reply #503 on:** January 12, 2010, 10:28:00 pm »

Hm, what details? I thought it was almost perfect

I'm not as good at TASing as you though. Do you think it would be possible to get 39 on this level? I TASed this mostly with a controller and 35% slow motion, because using frame advance takes so much time.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #504 on:** January 13, 2010, 08:23:00 am »

I guess i was refering to things like perfect strafing and the stuckages in a few spots, for slow-mo only though it's pretty good.

Jack · « **Reply #505 on:** January 23, 2010, 10:19:00 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxKKW_vDXRA

Just me dicking around with the new Aztec strat and lots of tricks. End time is nothing special. Three things of note:

-If you follow the exact path through the drone gun room as used in this vid (and my previous TAS of this stage) you will not get hit, because of how the drone guns track your movement. Might be useful for console players low on life at the end of a killer run. Plus, you won't get stuck on the glass this way, it'll always get destroyed in time.

-Guards behave abnormally when you're not "looking" at them. It seems like you can increase the chances of the glass being opened by looking at the MF door, and then immediately looking down once you hear it finish opening. I do this with a pause in this run, and for the curious if I did not pause at that exact moment the glass would not have been opened.

-Also, it seems like I got the glass door open with only one guard. It's hard to see exactly since I run right by them, but the other guard actually knew where I was, and was on the way to my hiding place. Not positive how this worked out, maybe it has something to do with my previous point.

Anyway, enjoy.

Cervone · « **Reply #506 on:** January 23, 2010, 02:26:00 pm »

Lol, I think that little shooting spree after inserting the tape might be good for console players low on life.

Henning Blom · « **Reply #507 on:** January 23, 2010, 03:27:00 pm »

yeah, could you show a "safe" way back to the vents too?

its like always on the way back you get killed anyways.

Jack · « **Reply #508 on:** January 23, 2010, 05:35:00 pm »

Quote from: Henning Blom

yeah, could you show a "safe" way back to the vents too? its like always on the way back you get killed anyways.

Not a bad idea. I'll try later on.

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #509 on:** January 23, 2010, 06:15:00 pm »

Wow, you used the new glass strat lol. But why did it take so long for the guard to go to the glass..cant it be done faster? Cool run though, perhaps the glass strat is doable on SA/00A after all, just felt impossible to me since I played SA like 10 hours and it never opened

meka · « **Reply #510 on:** January 24, 2010, 09:10:00 am »

Cool run, Jack. How do you move your gun around and shoot without looking into a different direction? Like you do on 0:24 for example. It seems like you're using the R to aim but maybe because you're pressing it for such a short time, it doesn't stop your character from moving. An .m64 and save state would always be good to have. Does anyone know some place where small files like that can be uploaded for free so that they don't get deleted after a few of months?

"Also, it seems like I got the glass door open with only one guard."

If you only need one guard to open it, shouldn't it then be possible to do an even faster glass strat, by only luring the guy behind the mainframe by shooting through it?

Quote from: Henrik Norgren

I guess i was refering to things like perfect strafing and the stuckages in a few spots, for slow-mo only though it's pretty good.

I don't speedrun this game so I'm probably not so good at noticing stuckages. Could you/someone show me a few stuckages in the run, so that I understand how it can be improved?

Illu · « **Reply #511 on:** January 24, 2010, 10:26:00 am »

"If you only need one guard to open it, shouldn't it then be possible to do an even faster glass strat, by only luring the guy behind the mainframe by shooting through it?"

Well that has been tried, still noone has really been able to get it to open like that, I still would like to see the glass be opened like that to see if it really is possible by just luring that guard behind the mf by shoothing trough close to him.

Jack · « **Reply #512 on:** January 24, 2010, 12:12:00 pm »

"It seems like you're using the R to aim but maybe because you're pressing it for such a short time, it doesn't stop your character from moving."

That's exactly it- if you only have it pressed for the frame you fire, that's only a brief time in which forward isn't pressed (you can still strafe in 2.3/2.4) and it's not enough for you to begin deaccellerating; unless you're not at top speed prior to doing so; or lag in the framerate causes you to not press forward for 5 or more frames in a row. I'm pretty sure the full run Henrik and Simon are making takes advantage of this as well (but maybe not to the ridiculous excess I used it here)

"I still would like to see the glass be opened like that to see if it really is possible by just luring that guard behind the mf by shoothing trough close to him."

While this is a neat idea, it's been tried in TAS before and I'm fairly certain it doesn't work because the guard doesn't actually see you at the glass. Still if this can be done with one guard it's worth another try by someone with more patience/free time; failing that just closing the door immediately while getting his attention oughtta do the trick.

Illu · « **Reply #513 on:** January 24, 2010, 01:47:00 pm »

So probably inconsistent enough to never be pulled off on console :P

Matis · « **Reply #514 on:** January 25, 2010, 04:59:00 am »

FREAKING AMAZING Ha

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #515 on:** January 25, 2010, 05:16:00 am »

Eh, it's been known forever that 1 guard can open the glass if another is lured close by. The problem is luring 1 and only 1 to the glass area at all seems impossible to get the glass open. Get it open without luring any other guards and we'll talk.

Simon-Sternis · « **Reply #516 on:** February 04, 2010, 06:19:00 pm »

Archives 00 Agent : 0.51

RWG · « **Reply #517 on:** February 04, 2010, 06:34:00 pm »

That was pretty awesome.

Henning Blom · « **Reply #518 on:** February 04, 2010, 06:42:00 pm »

Indeed, very nice guard manipulation too, its kinda hard to think console is 3 secs off with pretty much the "same" strat.

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #519 on:** February 04, 2010, 07:21:00 pm »

LOOL that was by far the best TAS run I have ever seen. The ending was truly hilarious.

Infected Mind · « **Reply #520 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:46:00 pm »

Insane

Darth Vader · « **Reply #521 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:08:00 pm »

I have a question about TAS'es. Now lets say you have saved the game on a particular spot right before you get pass some guards you want to manipulate. Are they going to do different moves every time if you rewind, play again, rewind, play again...

vitor · « **Reply #522 on:** February 05, 2010, 12:16:00 am »

lol that was fucking insane! I didn't realize what that grenade was for until you got the boost from it

preety cool

Matis · « **Reply #523 on:** February 05, 2010, 02:35:00 am »

yeah all the crate boost were crazy. and saving the guard was genius

meka · « **Reply #524 on:** February 05, 2010, 02:05:00 pm »

Quote from: InkosiDeVinyl

I have a question about TAS'es. Now lets say you have saved the game on a particular spot right before you get pass some guards you want to manipulate. Are they going to do different moves every time if you rewind, play again, rewind, play again...

If you do something even slightly different, they might do something different, but if you rewind it and do everything exactly the same, the guards will behave the same every time.

Simon-Sternis · « **Reply #525 on:** February 14, 2010, 07:53:00 am »

AZTEC AGENT : 1.13

Darth Vader · « **Reply #526 on:** February 14, 2010, 12:43:00 pm »

LOOOOL How the fuck did you just do that? If it can be pulled of on console i think many would have a tied wr on Aztec A as the level would be fucking cake.

Lovins · « **Reply #527 on:** February 14, 2010, 01:07:00 pm »

Haha are you fucking kidding me...

Wody · « **Reply #528 on:** February 14, 2010, 02:52:00 pm »

Holy fucking christ why didnt anyone think of that before

Lovins · « **Reply #529 on:** February 14, 2010, 05:00:00 pm »

Yeah I tried the warp for about 15 minutes straight and couldn't do it.

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #530 on:** February 14, 2010, 06:27:00 pm »

I guess my 126 is worthless. Fuck. UGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Boss · « **Reply #531 on:** February 14, 2010, 09:32:00 pm »

Simon Sternis = player of the year so far. His TAS runs are off the charts.

Scrambler Fanny · « **Reply #532 on:** February 14, 2010, 10:04:00 pm »

Quote from: david n clemens

I guess my 126 is worthless. Fuck. UGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #533 on:** February 15, 2010, 06:40:00 am »

Quote from: Bryan Bosshardt

Simon Sternis = player of the year so far. His TAS runs are off the charts.

Matis · « **Reply #534 on:** February 15, 2010, 07:07:00 am »

haha damn, that was seriously the most entertaining TAS yet... fucking amazing.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #535 on:** February 15, 2010, 11:19:00 am »

Quote from: Ryan Lockwood

Holy fucking christ why didnt anyone think of that before

EVERYONE have thought of this before, just no one has pulled it off before.

But seriously, this can't be done on console right? I'm fairly certain this is the same shit as B2 and AF1, emulators lag more than consoles and therefor warping is easier/possible.

Nice find though simon, it'll be a neat timesaver for the full run!

bcks · « **Reply #536 on:** February 15, 2010, 11:41:00 am »

113 wasn't even boosted. Lets see some boostage simon. Get like 1:11 or 1:10.

Simon-Sternis · « **Reply #537 on:** February 15, 2010, 01:23:00 pm »

Quote from: Henrik Norgren

Nice find though simon, it'll be a neat timesaver for the full run!

It would be great! But sorry guys, this vid was nothing more than a stupid fake.

I don't see any way to get things like that possible, even on emulator. Just made that because I though the run would look pretty cool.

That's all.

Talking about full run Henrik, make that #@%! Streets, then I can make Depot.

Lovins · « **Reply #538 on:** February 15, 2010, 01:35:00 pm »

Fake any others? Like Facility that I'm supposed to pay you for?

Wody · « **Reply #539 on:** February 15, 2010, 01:38:00 pm »

lololololololololololololololol

Simon-Sternis · « **Reply #540 on:** February 15, 2010, 01:40:00 pm »

Quote from: Lovins

Fake any others? Like Facility that I'm supposed to pay you for?

I was waiting for this kind of reaction. I can prove any of my other TASes by sending the Mupen 64 file to anyone who wants to check.

Simon-Sternis · « **Reply #541 on:** February 15, 2010, 01:41:00 pm »

Quote from: GoldenGreg007

If anyone were paying real close attention, they would have noticed his weapon/item list when he paused lacked the DAT, even though he picked it up as he paused

Yes, David noticed that this morning.

GoldenGreg007 · « **Reply #542 on:** February 15, 2010, 01:41:00 pm »

If anyone were paying real close attention, they would have noticed his weapon/item list when he paused lacked the DAT, even though he picked it up as he paused.

Scrambler Fanny · « **Reply #543 on:** February 15, 2010, 01:55:00 pm »

nooooooooooo!

Scrambler Fanny · « **Reply #544 on:** February 15, 2010, 02:01:00 pm »

Scrambler Fanny · « **Reply #545 on:** February 15, 2010, 02:04:00 pm »

Simon, yoo haz hurted the kitteh...
Intellectual Kitteh is vury hurted neow...

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #546 on:** February 15, 2010, 02:28:00 pm »

Simon says: burn cuz you got told!

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #547 on:** February 15, 2010, 05:20:00 pm »

Ha ha, I was talking to Simon before he even released the fake vid about this run, so it was pretty funny. I had to post that comment about my 126 to help it seem more legit.

meka · « **Reply #548 on:** February 15, 2010, 06:52:00 pm »

Meh... it was fake? It was faked pretty good though. I guess the DAT not showing up proves that it was fake, otherwise I would have had to ask for proof.

By the way, here's a tool-assisted multiplayer round I did a while ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nlK2Bvjino

Watch out for player 2, he's pretty good. I thought it would have been incredibly complex to do a 4 player TAS, but it was easier than I thought.

Quote from: Lovins

Fake any others? Like Facility that I'm supposed to pay you for?

Probably. I think most of his TASes are fake. That's why he never posts the m64s, like for his Dam Agent 52... ok, I'm joking

!!, I doubt/hope he hasn't more fakes than this one.

Quote from: Simon Sternis

I was waiting for this kind of reaction. I can prove any of my other TASes by sending the Mupen 64 file to anyone who wants to check.

You could upload all your Goldeneye TASes in a zip archive. I want to check what decimals you have too, since you usually don't post them.

Quote from: Henrik Norgren

emulators lag more than consoles and therefor warping is easier/possible.

Really? I thought emulators lagged less. At least they don't lag when there's smoke.

Simon-Sternis · « **Reply #549 on:** February 15, 2010, 07:00:00 pm »

Quote from: meka wrote:[/b

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Simon Sternis]I was waiting for this kind of reaction. I can prove any of my other TASes by sending the Mupen 64 file to anyone who wants to check.
You could upload all your Goldeneye TASes in a zip archive. I want to check what decimals you have too, since you usually don't post them.

But I usually tell them you when you ask me! I may do that sometime.
Nice magnum headshot btw. =D

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