Author Topic: A real TAS topic (Read 39679 times)

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #601 on:** November 05, 2010, 09:55:00 pm »

has anyone tried leaning with R and c left/right to gain time? I wonder if you could hit the fade spots earlier with this by a tenth or something.

Jack · « **Reply #602 on:** November 05, 2010, 10:02:00 pm »

Quote from: Henrik Norgren

That actually worked? LOL wtf. Awesome job and much respect to DaTel for figuring it out.

Is this the only level where this is useful? I'd hate the full game TAS to be obsoleted by this xD

I feel a little silly overlooking this in hindsight, considering I used the one set of dual weapons makes a missed pair on a test play of B2... which, can be seen Here: or not, since I apparently never uploaded this one. Maybe I'll dip through my old m64's later on.

meka · « **Reply #603 on:** November 06, 2010, 11:08:00 am »

Quote from: david n clemens

has anyone tried leaning with R and c left/right to gain time? I wonder if you could hit the fade spots earlier with this by a tenth or something.

i did that on my frigate DLTK. i wouldn't have gotten 1.13 without it. i don't remember how much it saved, but i think it was only a couple of hundredths. it might save more on other levels.

btw, i improved the ending of my jungle DLTK. i got 1:45.183 (i had forgotten to use the handwarp at the end). it was 1:45.666 before, so the warp saved about a half second. it wasn't very optimized though.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #604 on:** January 19, 2011, 01:09:38 pm »

Tasvideos.org writeup:

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One year later and...

Streets completed!

Alright so...Streets was bugging me and Simon for a long time. So far we had managed to tie or beat all the best TAS times on every level but on streets this just seemed impossible. Simons 1:51 was incredible, hard to tie under normal circumstances, and since we are using 2.3 control style, we have a disadvantage by not being able to strafe Val as efficiently(leaning doesn't work while aiming). So we were discussing if we should just settle with 1:52 for this run and live with it, and as it turned out... we just couldn't get 1:51...

http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1383924615/Henrik%20and%20Simon%20-%20Streets.m64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YucpaRI7Wco

Very likely this is the best GE TAS ever.

Henning Blom · « **Reply #605 on:** January 19, 2011, 04:25:59 pm »

haha wow that was crazy

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #606 on:** January 19, 2011, 07:35:31 pm »

That was awesome. Very clever strats there with the grenade boosts and such. I am interested as to whether you can get an instant explosion of the roadblock by the mines and skip it with GL. would surely save good time and make 1:12 a lot easier.

Jack · « **Reply #607 on:** January 20, 2011, 12:42:31 am »

That was awesome.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #608 on:** January 20, 2011, 01:30:13 am »

I doubt the roadblock can be destroyed fast enough for a full lookdown GL boost to work. It can be destroyed fairly quickly if looking at it a bit but still takes a sec or so. Best way is prolly to throw away an explosive from a distance and hope to run through fire unharmed and still get boosted(it's all about timing as you know, like Aztec consoles).

For the TAS we gained 20 frames(0.33 secs) on this but that was combined with a better mine boost.

AZ · « **Reply #609 on:** January 20, 2011, 08:02:45 am »

wtf wow

Imperfect Clark · « **Reply #610 on:** January 20, 2011, 05:39:18 pm »

I'm very amazed. Reminds me of that 15-boost non-TAS run I had where I died at the end

Wyst3r · « **Reply #611 on:** January 21, 2011, 02:42:25 pm »

From Tasvideos:

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Depot Complete!

Well same story as streets pretty much. 43 was maxed, therefor we got 42.

http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1417214129/Henrik%20and%20Simon%20-%20Depot%20-%2042.m64

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnQSo70P3Yc

RWG · « **Reply #612 on:** January 21, 2011, 03:10:49 pm »

Just watched the 1:50

Nice to see that strafing Val and getting the early BA, things I pioneered, are now the standard in expert streets runs.

I've tried taking out that roadblock before. It's really hard to say if a console usable method saves time. Waiting grenades is ridic but the method you used seems like it has a shot of working.

GoldenGreg007 · « **Reply #613 on:** January 21, 2011, 04:25:24 pm »

If you "pioneered" strafing Val on Streets, then you might want to inform 2000-2001 era Sterling so he can give you credit in his walkthrough:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010815054827/neblett.hypermart.net/text.html

Henning Blom · « **Reply #614 on:** January 21, 2011, 04:46:33 pm »

We are all proud of you Ryan!

qstarh · « **Reply #615 on:** January 21, 2011, 07:22:30 pm »

Grenade launcher boosts off the building were pretty cool!!

Mavalock · « **Reply #616 on:** January 21, 2011, 11:52:39 pm »

That. Was. Sick.

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #617 on:** January 22, 2011, 04:07:10 pm »

Ryan was the first one to strafe Val outside the building.

Might not be a major helpful find (since its very annoying), and I'm sure Simon would have found it anyway, but Ryan still did pioneer it.

It's like when I got Frigate 00A 1:07 with the new strat. Sure I didn't come up with the strat, but I still pioneered it because I was the first one to show that it is possible to complete with it/execute a completion with it.

RWG · « **Reply #618 on:** January 22, 2011, 04:10:55 pm »

YOUR EMINENCE, MR. GREG WOLL.

I AM WRITING YOU TODAY TO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING AMBIGUOUS IN REPLY #636 TO THIS THREAD. WHAT I INTENDED WAS TO SAY THAT I INNOVATED 'STRAFING VAL OUT OF THE ROOM;' A STRATEGY THAT SAVES 2-3 SECONDS FROM OTHER STRAFING METHODS. I ADMIT THAT STERLING PERHAPS INNOVATED STRAFING VAL TO THE CORNER OF THAT ROOM, WHICH DID SAVE UP TO 0.7 SECONDS. I AM SINCERELY REGRETFUL OF ANY INCONVENIENCE AND STRESS MY CARELESS POSTING HAS CAUSED YOU.

YOUR FAITHFUL FOLLOWER, RYAN WHITE

Matt-Cook1 · « **Reply #619 on:** January 22, 2011, 09:48:15 pm »

I was strafing Val out of the building well before Ryan's vids of him doing it showed up. You didn't invent it, innovate it, discover it. You just "used" it. I imagine many others did it before you, as well.

You're a poor strat-maker. Stick to arrogantly bragging about your times - at least they're good.

RWG · « **Reply #620 on:** January 22, 2011, 09:52:24 pm »

I was the first to pull it off.

Suck my c0ck.

Matt-Cook1 · « **Reply #621 on:** January 22, 2011, 10:00:38 pm »

Let's leave it at you being the first to pull it off. Certainly the first to do it with any sort of finesse.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #622 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:33:37 am »

Lol at anyone "inventing" that strat, it's not even a strat xD. You just strafe him a little further, it's OBVIOUS. Whoever invented valstrafe in the first place invented strafing him further. Besides, strafing him out was discussed since the dawn of time, it's just that poeple had lives back then.

On another note, if anyone has any crazy strat ideas/other ideas/funny stuff for Train/Jungle/Control/Caverns/Cradle/Aztec/Egypt that they want me to test/use in the TAS then post here.

bcks · « **Reply #623 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:40:30 pm »

Caverns 00, the locker room route. How low can that go?

RWG · « **Reply #624 on:** January 23, 2011, 05:02:02 pm »

Quote from: Henrik Norgren on January 23, 2011, 06:33:37 am

Lol at anyone "inventing" that strat, it's not even a strat xD. You just strafe him a little further, it's OBVIOUS. Whoever invented valstrafe in the first place invented strafing him further. Besides, strafing him out was discussed since the dawn of time, it's just that poeple had lives back then.

Wody · « **Reply #625 on:** January 23, 2011, 05:09:17 pm »

Wyst3r · « **Reply #626 on:** January 23, 2011, 05:30:09 pm »

Lol.

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Caverns 00, the locker room route. How low can that go?

Dunno really, i might as well time the exact diffrence when i get to cavs. Shouldn't take too long.

I'm probably gonna go invent skipping-remotes-on-control-strat now.

Lovins · « **Reply #627 on:** January 23, 2011, 11:08:48 pm »

Quote from: Henrik Norgren on January 23, 2011, 05:30:09 pm

I'm probably gonna go invent skipping-remotes-on-control-strat now.

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #628 on:** January 23, 2011, 11:30:29 pm »

doesnt the current TAS already skip remote mines?

Wyst3r · « **Reply #629 on:** January 24, 2011, 03:24:06 am »

Yes, but you seem to need to complete a good time on console with it for the strat to officially be invented

Matt-Cook1 · « **Reply #630 on:** January 24, 2011, 05:27:11 am »

Henrik you sly dog lol

RWG · « **Reply #631 on:** January 24, 2011, 07:05:52 am »

I also invented the train strat.

Carathorn · « **Reply #632 on:** January 24, 2011, 09:46:37 am »

Quote from: Henrik Norgren on January 23, 2011, 06:33:37 am

Lol at anyone "inventing" that strat, it's not even a strat xD. You just strafe him a little further, it's OBVIOUS. Whoever invented valstrafe in the first place invented strafing him further. Besides, strafing him out was discussed since the dawn of time, it's just that poeple had lives back then.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #633 on:** January 26, 2011, 12:45:30 pm »

Henrik Norgren - Train 00A : 1.40 (TAS)

meka · « **Reply #634 on:** January 26, 2011, 05:32:37 pm »

Cool, you were actually one second faster to the end than in your Agent run.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #635 on:** January 30, 2011, 01:09:06 pm »

Henrik Norgren - Jungle 00A 0.49

Cervone · « **Reply #636 on:** January 30, 2011, 03:14:31 pm »

Cool run. But also pretty neat that the real record is only 6 sec slower....

Wyst3r · « **Reply #637 on:** January 30, 2011, 04:03:58 pm »

Yeah jungle is suprisingly difficult to save major time on.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #638 on:** February 11, 2011, 09:21:07 pm »

Control 00A 3:51

Crazy/Insane shit, Beats the best Agent TAS by over a second. Not gonna post a vid yet on this though. I want something left to show off when the run is finished and there's also another reason which i'm keeping secret for now...

Time was untied when set. · « **Reply #639 on:** February 11, 2011, 09:39:59 pm »

Darth Vader · « **Reply #640 on:** February 12, 2011, 04:26:20 am »

Henning Blom · « **Reply #641 on:** February 12, 2011, 06:41:08 am »

Holy shit 3:51 sounds crazy, even for TAS

Wyst3r · « **Reply #642 on:** February 15, 2011, 01:17:06 pm »

Caverns 00A 1:19

1.22 wasn't so maxed after all.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #643 on:** February 15, 2011, 05:00:58 pm »

If someone knows how to unlock aztec/egypt with button codes it'd be greatly appreciated. None of the codes i found on the internet works and i have no idea why(and yes ive tried beating cradle on agent).

speedruntrainer · « **Reply #644 on:** February 16, 2011, 03:38:08 am »

I don't know if the button codes works on emulator.
But I can upload a 100% save file if you would like.
Or just beat everything on 00 Agent if you aren't too lazy :P

Wyst3r · « **Reply #645 on:** February 16, 2011, 03:40:22 am »

The issue was that i needed to unlock them in my full 00A TAS meaning i can't start from a 100% file. But it doesn't matter anymore.

Wyst3r · « **Reply #646 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:20:37 pm »

Cradle 00A 33.283

This was way closer to 32 than i thought was possible so i might give this some extra tries(though this run was pretty awesome...)

Wyst3r · « **Reply #647 on:** February 17, 2011, 05:23:08 pm »

Cradle 00A 0:32

Used a new awesome looking strat(and no it can't be done on console). Decimal was .73

Darth Vader · « **Reply #648 on:** February 17, 2011, 05:34:14 pm »

Fuck you are crazy Henrik

Cervone · « **Reply #649 on:** February 17, 2011, 05:52:26 pm »

Nice! Post some vids! I always enjoy watching the TASs a lot.

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