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« on: June 24, 2007, 03:06:00 am »
Agent time 19:59.  Let's see it baby! :smokin
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2007, 07:03:00 am »
Wow, quick pause can save .5s for two pauses!!!?  I think if you have more than two you would add more timed saved for each pause!!

Think of the timed saved for a level like silo 00!!!  five pauses, that's potentially 2s saved!!

Jack, can you please get back to us on this?  Does more quick pauses save even more time?  Does more than two full pauses save more time too?

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2007, 08:53:00 am »
I do about six on Aztec, then the pause is really fast, 4-6 then it's no use anymore.

Congrats on getting that while it's still a WR Jimmy.

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2007, 09:11:00 am »
I actually thought of that pause trick while trying to find new strats. I guess I didn't try it that much. I tried like 2 or 3 times, but I was to slow at double tapping the start button cause I didn't gain time on it. The trick probably needs perfect execution to gain time.
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2007, 10:35:00 am »
SWaff, remember that time still ticks by during the pausing animation. This trick is only useful on B1 A/SA, or a similar level where you're stuck waiting for something (in this case the first door to open). Doing multiple quick pauses would save a further 16 frames (for the second one) IN THEORY, but to do the quickpause you have to remain motionless for the time it takes to do it. By the second quick pause, the first doors are already open and you begin to lose time from doing this.

Silo 00 you reach maximum pausing speed by the 4th pause. And you lose time from quickpausing at the beginning of the level, so I can't see this being too useful here, if even at all.

A/SA is another matter, where you only use one pause. If you anticipate one of the doors guards open for you to be slow, try a quickpause while waiting for it to open. Will give you a tiny edge on the pause for the camera.

It could save a tiny fraction of a second on Dam 00 though. If you get a slow-ish gate, do a quick pause or two while waiting for it to open, saving about a quarter second/third of a second when you pause for the covert modem.

Other levels where you have to pause for something are: Aztec (do quickpauses while waiting for guards to open glass door), B2 (quickpause wont be any use here), Facility (if you anticipate any one of the doors guards open for you to be slow, do a quickpause while waiting for it to be opened for you. A bit riskier on this one), and Frigate (worthless).

And to whoever had mentioned it, the 0.5 seconds this saves on B1 SA _is_ assuming perfect execution (im pretty sure I had said this when I mentioned the results of my test before). I imagine with some practice it could easily become second nature to have the timing of the double-tap for quick pause down, doing at just about as fast as it possibly can be most of the time.

I think that about covers the quick pause.

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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2007, 10:41:00 am »
I think quick pausing on any other level would be worse because you lose your full speed.
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2007, 11:48:00 am »
I can't see it saving much less than 0.5, I mean I literally went from failing only 24s to caking 23s. I guess if you are of 22 potential it could be different since you do the 1st cam much faster, and these people have previously used the door opening time to aim up, and charge up speed to get the first cam much faster. In regards to "perfect execution" I don't think you could do it any faster than in my :23, I mean the ammo disappears for like 0.2.

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2007, 12:19:00 pm »
This sucks, I know for a fact I could get 22 and damnit I should, I'd hate to see my last WR go :(

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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2007, 01:57:00 pm »
Congrats on B1 0:22 Clemens! That's great somebody finally got it! :D  
I can't wait to see that vid. With all these untieds that you have now, you should send a tape out.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2007, 02:00:00 pm »
GET ONLINE!! WAS IT PAUSE TRICK OR NO??  ARE YOU INSANE??  AWESOME!!
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2007, 02:01:00 pm »
22:

- MOst insane run ive ever seen in my life, seriously this was like cradle 34 clean. One bullet every cam (shot total =7 :eek , thats 3 for the last cam since i did one kf7 3 r burst). 5 boosts. I missed the warp but a nice guard boosted me right through, but i still lost at least .3 there. No pause trick because Im not a @#%$ :smokin . Also the pause trick wastes time. you arent getting 22 with it. All you do is gain back the time you lost from losing full speed.

Well this is easily my best record, I mean i spent less time on it than other records, but nothing comes close. So much luck, and you need to get everything together in such a short, maxed level. 22 is just so insane, and Im glad to say I got it.

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2007, 02:59:00 pm »
Damn:hat

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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2007, 04:29:00 pm »
Very nice untied Clemens!

Impressive!

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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2007, 04:55:00 pm »
Damn Clem, you're like insane or something. How long until you pass Boss? lol

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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2007, 05:20:00 pm »
god damn, thats definitely a nice wr. congrats.

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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2007, 10:48:00 pm »
I was thinking for silo you would do a quick pause when pause for the first c4.  Then the next 3 pauses would all be faster and you have max pause speed for the last 2 pauses.  Just because the last pause will be max speed reguardless doesn't mean making the other four faster isn't a good idea which would save time.

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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2007, 11:03:00 pm »
first one is no good, you barely make it to the door before the guard blocks your way as it is.  Well maybe cut some cinema and do it, hmm
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2007, 12:31:00 am »
freaking awesome record Clem :smokin
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2007, 05:21:00 am »
Congrats David, something told me you would be the first to get it ;)
Well done!

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2007, 09:56:00 am »
Sounds like a SICK run. Awesome untied. :D
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2007, 01:41:00 pm »
Indeed ^

Awesome job David! I knew someone would get it soon. Can't wait to see your new untieds.

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2007, 01:43:00 pm »
Good Job on the latest wrs
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2007, 02:52:00 pm »
I'm not too fond of that @#%$ 0:22, damnit. There goes my favorite record ever.

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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2007, 03:26:00 pm »
The general rule is, if Jim has it, its usually pretty easy to go faster.

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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2007, 05:27:00 pm »
Great job Henning!:D

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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2007, 05:31:00 pm »
Congrats Henning!

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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2007, 06:34:00 pm »
Nicely done, I knew you'd have that posted by today.

But karl, Jim didnt have archives 56's and 55's suck =p

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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2007, 07:04:00 pm »
Congrats Henning !

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« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2007, 07:13:00 pm »
Henning:hat

Good job!

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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2007, 07:38:00 pm »
So except for the door warp thing, the run was perfect? That's so incredibly good, Dave. Bravo.

Henning Blom just keeps on rolling! You'll be #1 rivalry before long at this rate, man. Nice work!
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« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2007, 08:20:00 pm »
Haha nice job Ryan :)

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« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2007, 08:53:00 pm »
i'll start by saying well done Henning, that WR is pretty cool to get!
but Ryan man, great job with 53 i knew you would get it someday but today was the day so enjoy the feeling that you will never have to play that stage again :)  

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« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2007, 09:00:00 pm »
Why not? I have 6 Dam Agent 53's, it never gets old , just ask Wouter ;) .

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« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2007, 09:11:00 pm »
Ryan! I keep forgetting you didn't have that still. :b  Nice point gain towards Illu ;)

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« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2007, 09:41:00 pm »
nice wring noobs :hat

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« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2007, 12:34:00 am »
Haha, I'm starting to believe that Guilherme's words has some strange magical powers :lol

From now on, every time I'll go for a WR I'll ask for Gui to tell me the exactly same words. Nice job Henning and Ryan!

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« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2007, 01:14:00 pm »
Clemens > Rayan.

Yeah I'm taking a mini break (since Saturday night now).  I kinda blew up during Euro FV yesterday and need to do something fun for a while.  Honestly, GE really isn't fun anymore without PRing on a regular basis.

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« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2007, 01:23:00 pm »
Karl, if I got an untied, it was a pretty solid time. Hell 37 I didn't think was gonna be beaten for a long time, and 1:08 was considered maxed at the time, so here's my penis for the sucking plz.

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« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2007, 01:57:00 pm »
Gratz Henning and Ryan :D
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« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2007, 02:02:00 pm »
Awesome job Ryan!  Glad you finally got it.:)

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« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2007, 02:31:00 pm »
Well Done Henning!! :)

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« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2007, 02:05:00 am »
The MVP rankings are very close now, I sense byran may have to step down here very soon he if doesn't keep getting untieds.

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« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2007, 12:58:00 pm »
Great job Rayan !

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« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2007, 01:43:00 pm »
too many 17's :(
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« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2007, 02:25:00 pm »
WTG, PAL!!!:eek :D

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« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2007, 02:37:00 pm »
Very impressive, great job Rayan!

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« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2007, 05:25:00 pm »
Nice job Dan and Rayan! There goes the 17 PAL untied by wouter, and its nice to see Dan playing again. Now how about you improve your other bunker times, seeing as how theyre complete trash :p .

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« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2007, 05:39:00 pm »
Bunker 1 0:17

I used the pause trick and I think it definitely helps. I played about an hour last night and got a 0:18 (no warp) which was pretty clearly a 0:17 had the warp worked. Then the 0:17 today took no more than 5 minutes. Factor in the fact that I rarely play GE these days (maybe 10 hours of B1 agent in 2007)... so this record prolly will become even more common than it already is.

Edit: Also, I'm not even convinced pausing in the beginning compromises your full speed all that much. Anybody who has played B1 A knows that moving between the first door and the first pause is entirely a matter of timing... you get into a groove of reacting to the door opening, quick turn, and a pause, which is all timing-based. Sometimes pausing in the beginning noticeably altered this timing, but other times it didn't. If you try it out (many times, not just twice) yourself, you'll see what I mean.

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« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2007, 05:47:00 pm »
I dunno, that run didnt look very much dif than the other 17's and either did the 18 no warp. I messed around with it and seemed to quit 13's easier, but i dont think it really helps much more than .1 at best if even that. Those runs were actually pretty good, I mean just watch bryans 17 lol.

In any case 16 isnt really at all possible IMO.

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« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2007, 06:15:00 pm »
lol at jim for his comment to karl.:rollin :rollin

lol at waffle for mention of his stupid rankings.

great job on the 17's guys.