Author Topic: So I bought a DVD recorder... (Read 1689 times)

RWG · « **on:** July 23, 2007, 07:47:00 pm »

UPDATE!! SKIP TO LAST AREA TO SEE WHAT'S NEW!

Thats right. My VCR broke. But here, situation analysis.

I'm working at the Canadian Open golf tourny this week and will be making almost $1k. I will have money to spend, and since I'd be going to Best Buy or something to spend $80 on a VCR, I may as well get a capture card for $120 when I'm there.

In the meantime I'll either play kart or just play GE levels I know I won't WR on, or continue to suck like I have been all summer, or maybe get laid. I'm not quite sure as of yet.

But I have a few questions.

Anyone know how to get a good/new VCR for under $80?

Anyone know how to get a capture card for under $120?

These prices seem to be what the cheapest models of these products sell for at Best Buy or Future Shop.

This computer (my laptop) has only a 400 MHz processor, but the family PC has a 1.1 GHz processor which should be OK with a ccard. I might get a new-ish laptop for uni this summer too, so what kind of different capture cards are there? PCM-CIA or something? I think USB might be the best choice for my situation but please enlighten me.

Thanks everyone.

octoinky · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2007, 08:23:00 pm »

DVD/VCR combos can run pretty cheap, if you'll be needing a DVD player also. Capture card... AVI Wonder Pro xx or whatever like everybody has works a champ, and $120 CAD sounds about right.. a bit expensive actually.

Infected Mind · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2007, 09:56:00 pm »

See what the prices go for a dvd recorder before investing into a new vcr. new vcrs are like 80 which is a rip for sure, since you can get dvd players for 30 bucks or so.

also my cap card was like 60-70 3 years ago, so look around for those 2, best buy is a rip most likely id recommend a local place or something usually you can get stuff much cheaper from those, ive noticed myself.

Lark · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2007, 10:34:00 pm »

Mouser and I both have the Mercury TV Tuner Card, which is a good one as well. It's pretty cheap, I bought it for $30. It gives a cleaner picture than the ATI Wonder Card. That one actually sucked.

Lovins · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2007, 10:36:00 pm »

Heh you seem to be going expensive, my capture card was $60 and my VCR $40, although the VCR isn't great lol, but it's good enough for GE recording.

Infected Mind · « **Reply #5 on:** July 23, 2007, 11:53:00 pm »

I think its mostly cause best buy/future shop is a massive rip off

Troublesome Moral Code · « **Reply #6 on:** July 24, 2007, 12:33:00 am »

Good thing too, cuz my capture card was the last one in stock at Future Shop.

Your Eliteness · « **Reply #7 on:** July 24, 2007, 07:16:00 am »

1.1GHz is barely enough to capture properly. You'd be doing heaps small resolutions if you wanted to used that PC. Like 160x120. 400MHz won't capture anything it all - it will have a crappy frame rate, drop frames all over the place, and will stop capturing after a few seconds.

You'll want to get a new PC if you're going to get a capture card. You're probably better off investing in a DVD recorder.

Troublesome Moral Code · « **Reply #8 on:** July 24, 2007, 08:04:00 am »

Says you!

Back before I had my new computer I was capturing decent videos with a 600Mhz processor, using the same method that I do now. It's all in the encoders basically.

Brucmack · « **Reply #9 on:** July 24, 2007, 09:49:00 am »

A capture card with composite inputs might be worth looking into... that would allow you to connect your N64 directly to the capture card. Whether it would be playable is a bit dependent on the card I guess, since some might lag the signal a bit too much. But in theory it lets you skip the VCR entirely and record directly to disk...

Your Eliteness · « **Reply #10 on:** July 24, 2007, 10:28:00 am »

I can play it directly on my PC but it feels wrong... like the screen is too small or something. I think it does lag every so slightly - it's hardly noticable but stops me from playing it directly on my capture card. Also, I wouldn't capture as I play live either because I don't like that way of capturing (I've have to edit the footage to remove parts).

I record to VCR while playing on the TV, then when I come to capture I play the VCR tape, maybe play some music and capture using WME. No editing required. That's the Aussie way.

Cyberwrath87 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 24, 2007, 11:32:00 am »

Jeez, a VCR for more than $50 is a complete ripoff. I also got a great capture card for just $30 - ATI TV Wonder, it does all you really need it to do.

Matthijs Triep · « **Reply #12 on:** July 24, 2007, 12:03:00 pm »

DVD recorder is what you should be looking for, no vcr and capture card.

Illu · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2007, 02:29:00 pm »

So you crash only 25pts behind me, well it's not supposed to be easy.

Discombobulator11 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2007, 03:29:00 pm »

"In the meantime I'll either play kart or just play GE levels I know I won't WR on,..."

That shouldn't be hard to do! owned!!@!@!@!@!@

Just kidding, I felt like adding a random comment, because I'm all hyped up because I became an uncle last night!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!

Illu · « **Reply #15 on:** July 24, 2007, 04:26:00 pm »

omfg, congrats uncle Randy

RWG · « **Reply #16 on:** July 24, 2007, 04:28:00 pm »

none of my computers can read DVDs, and if I can't capture with these comps, then

Infected Mind · « **Reply #17 on:** July 24, 2007, 04:49:00 pm »

your computers cant read vhs tapes either

Narigutita · « **Reply #18 on:** July 24, 2007, 05:01:00 pm »

this is a sign, you should just stop playing, you suck

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #19 on:** July 24, 2007, 06:46:00 pm »

computers don't read dvd's, dvd drives do. the computer can "read" the dvds via the drive.. which can be installed, which often goes automatically too. so bad excuse there.

octoinky · « **Reply #20 on:** July 24, 2007, 07:22:00 pm »

playing direclty into your CC is pretty bad. but the ATI Wonder Pro or whatever for probably $70 or 80 CAD has the composite input, and you just do what YE said. It's very easy. And just drop the quality a bit, don't get a new PC or something lol.

redsrule2500 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 27, 2007, 08:36:00 am »

VCR???

deletedprofile.u · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2007, 07:46:00 pm »

Yeah, those Canadians still have VCRs.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #23 on:** July 29, 2007, 06:21:00 am »

Virtual Console Replay

RWG · « **Reply #24 on:** August 15, 2007, 02:25:00 pm »

ok sorry for bumpage, but I'm heading out to get a DVD recorder either tonight or tomorrow. Only my sister's laptop can read DVDs, but I'm getting a new laptop for uni really soon which will be able to.

Basically I'd like to know if you can buy a DVD reader for a computer, install that, and whatever.

And also just keep this topic here for any problems I am likely to encounter.

Illu · « **Reply #25 on:** August 15, 2007, 02:43:00 pm »

I just bought one that I could just tap into the USB port and then into the wall for power, that's a simple solution, ask for one at your local electronic store.

Then just throw in the DVD and get some program to rip the contents of it to your computer.

EDIT: oh right I shouldn't help too much or you'll pass me

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #26 on:** August 15, 2007, 07:56:00 pm »

the one I got from you Ilari, can I connect it to the computer? since that might make things tons easier..

RWG · « **Reply #27 on:** August 15, 2007, 09:08:00 pm »

So I'm up and recording fine! I will likely have problems making the vids themselves but until I WR or PR, I'm doing great. Any advice on how to make DVD Recorded vids would be greatly appreciated.

SpiderWaffle · « **Reply #28 on:** August 15, 2007, 10:15:00 pm »

When you record to a DVD can't you just put the DVD into a DVD reader on your computer? Might have to convert the file or something.

CreepingDeath007 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 15, 2007, 11:01:00 pm »

Read this guide! =)

RWG · « **Reply #30 on:** August 16, 2007, 11:34:00 pm »

ok, this is for Jimmy or Illu or anyone who uses a DVD recorder.

Can I make a vid from an unfinalized DVD? If I finalize a DVD-RW, can I delete everything and re-use it?

CreepingDeath007 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 16, 2007, 11:56:00 pm »

I think it might be possible to make vids from unfinalized DVDs but it's hard to find the right program. But don't worry about that anyway because yes, you can erase finalized DVD-RWs. Your DVD recorder should give you an option to unfinalize a DVD and after that you can just erase it like normal. =)

RWG · « **Reply #32 on:** August 17, 2007, 12:17:00 am »

Alright thanks a lot. I dont know if Im more looking forward to my next WR or the vid making afterwards

OO · « **Reply #33 on:** August 17, 2007, 01:22:00 am »

There is no need to even finalize DVD-RW's. My recorder doesn't even have a option for that on RW's. The computer will read the disc fine anyway.

CreepingDeath007 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 17, 2007, 03:12:00 am »

Hmm, you sure you aren't confusing -RW with +RW? I'm pretty sure I tried putting my DVD-RW in the computer without finalizing it but the program I was using couldn't read it. According to this it's the +RWs that don't need to be finalized.

OO · « **Reply #35 on:** August 17, 2007, 03:14:00 am »

Actually... I think you are right. I'm using DVD+RW's. Sorry my bad

CreepingDeath007 · « **Reply #36 on:** August 17, 2007, 03:36:00 am »

Hehe, no problem. =)

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #37 on:** August 17, 2007, 06:28:00 am »

so I guess that's why +RW is superior?

RWG · « **Reply #38 on:** August 19, 2007, 01:24:00 am »

Ok, Im really confused. That guide you linked me to Jimmy, well its good but I think theres a lot of extraneous stuff in there I dont need to do.

Can someone just give me a list of the programs I need to make vids off a DVD, or maybe a good short description which is to the point. I dont care to encode stuff as good as Jimmy, any good qual vid will do.

Thanks in advance, I really need help here

CreepingDeath007 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 19, 2007, 02:03:00 am »

Yeah sorry, there is a lot of stuff in that guide.

Just pay attention to this page. You only need to download that one program and if you answer the questions it gives you it should do everything for you.

Though I actually haven't tried it myself yet since it's fairly new, hopefully it will be easy.

RWG · « **Reply #40 on:** August 19, 2007, 02:50:00 am »

Thanks Jimmy!! That program sure made things cake. I'll have a nice vid for tomorrow of something nice (not a WR but still

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Grags · « **Reply #41 on:** September 12, 2007, 04:38:00 am »

So i bought a dvd recorder... But unfortunatily im getting serious probelms

PCTV Vision does this
Virtual Dub does this

Anyone know of any decent software that will iron out both these probelms ?

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #42 on:** September 12, 2007, 07:32:00 am »

How're you transfaring the vids from the dvd? If you use your capture card you might want to get a program/plugin that can change the current input to NTSC.

I use iuVCR, which has lovely settings for changing between PAL/NTSC, settings, color/gamma correction and preview.

If your vids look like that after being transfered with a +rw-disc: make sure your dvd records in NTSC. Most dvds have these in settings.

Grags · « **Reply #43 on:** September 12, 2007, 09:20:00 am »

Thanks Patrik

I downloaded iuvcr V4.16.0.403 and gaive it a little test. Works perfectly tho it's only a trial version, so i'll use up the 30 trial then buy it, Unless anyone has a another suggestion that doesn't dig in my pocket

RWG · « **Reply #44 on:** September 12, 2007, 09:37:00 am »

Anri-Chan. Whatever Jimmy linked me to above. Ask me if you have questions on how to use it. Im at school for the next 3 hours but I'll be around after then.

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #45 on:** September 12, 2007, 09:50:00 am »

I'll contact you on aim Graham.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #46 on:** September 12, 2007, 01:26:00 pm »

um yea.. when you have dvds, you don't need anything that requires a capture card. so obv don't try and use inferior tools to make vids when there's better stuff out there lol

Grags · « **Reply #47 on:** September 12, 2007, 03:28:00 pm »

My DVD R/RW is knackered so i've binned it, so I have no choice but to use something external. The only problem I have now, i have to finalize the disc before it'll play on my dvd/video Combi. This is going to cost me a bomb in dvd's. even on SLP I only get 6 hours. But muh, it's fine, i'll find someway to do it. Even if it means attaching the dvd recorder to my PC every week or so and recording all my pr's that way.

tbh I should stick to the more reliable video capture and sell the bleeding thing on ebay. More mither than it's worth

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #48 on:** September 12, 2007, 05:52:00 pm »

eh.. you should just get one with a harddisk in it.. so you only have to put stuff on dvds that you actually want.

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Author Topic: So I bought a DVD recorder... (Read 1689 times)