Author Topic: The Race to 19:59 (Read 2357 times)

Boss · « **on:** July 11, 2007, 11:43:00 pm »

The barrier is up for grabs for anyone to get an agent untied to take the elite under the 20 minute barrier. I figure Clemens would get back to Surface 1 102, Goose Silo 102, Luke Caverns 102, Ilari Aztec 131 etc. It could be something much more unexpected.

RWG · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:30:00 am »

no, everyone should go for Caverns 1:02. I think that would be funnest and be the most epic, plus it gives everyone a chance and gets rid of a very old WR

flukey lukey · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2007, 12:50:00 am »

im hoping for an Archives 0:15 from Karl, but ill start playing for 1

2 pretty soon :smokin

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2007, 05:35:00 am »

Clemens - Surface 1 A 1:02?

D N Clemens · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:00:00 pm »

Maybe I will, 103 looks like trash on the rankings and its just way too easy. 103 is like the new 104 or something. I guess I should, maybe I will soon.

Thiradell · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2007, 06:10:00 pm »

I'm thinking about Train 0:59. I may also try Runway 0:20 or Depot 0:24.

Assassin22 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2007, 09:13:00 pm »

Well I'm safe to say the 19 minute barrier will never be broken unless something is found on Control.

Jimbo · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2007, 09:44:00 pm »

Yeah tell that to Gragz who just got an incomprehensible time, S1 1:02 is not impossible and 1:02 Caverns is sure as hell happening.

mrsooreams · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2007, 10:07:00 pm »

I assume he meant 18:59.

Jack · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:40:00 pm »

Well, Boss got the 45, so why don't we have a race to 1:02? Just get all active GEers in on it, Im sure one of us can nail it.

Grags · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:46:00 pm »

w00t just got 25 depot!!

Well ok, not really. But it's nice to know i contributed towards the final barrier on Agent

RWG · « **Reply #11 on:** July 13, 2007, 12:04:00 am »

That's what I said Jack, I'll make a topic for it to be more official its 1:02 we're going for.

Assassin22 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 13, 2007, 12:50:00 am »

Yeah Im sure stuff like this will happend before 09.

Control(A) 3:57
Statue(A) 2:18
Depot(A) 0:25
Aztec(A) 1:29

Very hardcore stuff. I plan on hitting 1:49 on Aztec agent this year and sub 2:00 on SA let alone what some of the top players could do. 00 is still and may always be my biggest problem for half the game.

flukey lukey · « **Reply #13 on:** July 13, 2007, 02:29:00 am »

i have work tonight, but when i get back...

its on.

Lovins · « **Reply #14 on:** July 13, 2007, 03:18:00 am »

Geez, and I still don't even have 1:03 :lol

But don't you guys know I've been whoarding Statue Agent 2:18 for this anyways?

Wyst3r · « **Reply #15 on:** July 13, 2007, 06:00:00 am »

Man i can't believe we've almost hit the point where every agent wr is maxed(or very close to it).

And we also reached the point where cavs 1:02 is the easiest untied to get :lol

Seriously, we won't break 19:50 :rollin

Illu · « **Reply #16 on:** July 13, 2007, 06:14:00 am »

1:02? sounds funny enough hehehe.

I made it to Patrik this morning, dunno what I can do with this widescreen TV, maybe I'll have to change, NTSC PAL dunno yet, oh well, good luck everyone!

Boss · « **Reply #17 on:** July 13, 2007, 12:56:00 pm »

I'm almost considering trying for 44.. The 45 is just such a good decimal, and with a slight strat modification it might be doable without too many more hours.

Light · « **Reply #18 on:** July 13, 2007, 05:50:00 pm »

Go for it; that'd be some untied!

SpiderWaffle · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2007, 08:01:00 pm »

Until you have proof it's a low decimal I wouldn't spend too much time going for 44. Henrik has a TAS of 44, might be helpful.

Train, Silo, and caverns I think would be the easiest ones to get.

vitor · « **Reply #20 on:** July 13, 2007, 10:16:00 pm »

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Narigutita · « **Reply #21 on:** July 14, 2007, 01:49:00 am »

hmm, i still think 19:50 possible =P
imagine
i remember somebody said dam 52 (i could be wrong), bryan is saying 44, streets 1:12 was already discussed, archives 15 (i'm guessing this one), control, statue 2:18, train, maybe illu gets an insane aztec, egypt 45, silo, Surface 1 1:02, caverns 1:02, depot 25, that's a lot of levels
if i'm awesomelly wrong about any (dam or archives), it could bring down more on control or train, who knows? GE Elite has impressed me a lot already, and i never get tired of it
i hope it can impress you too henrik =P

vitor · « **Reply #22 on:** July 14, 2007, 03:15:00 am »

After Caverns 1:02, it's going to be S1 1:02 I guess. Then Silo, perhaps. Jungle is a good level too, hence the ammount of boost spots. Dunno, 19:50 looks quite out of reach for now. It'll happen within a year or so, though.

Lovins · « **Reply #23 on:** July 14, 2007, 03:29:00 am »

I think we'll break 19:50.

Let's see. Dam 52 maybe. Facility 44 should be done, if Boss is already saying it's clearly possible. Surface 1:02 obviously. Silo 1:02, or maybe 1:01, I think he said 1:01 agent was like 1:10 SA. Statue 2:18 seems crazy insane to me, but leave room for small strat improvements. I doubt Archives 15 would ever happen, same goes for Streets 1:12 and Depot 25, even though all are theoretically possible. Jungle 51 could prolly happen. Control we know can prolly lose 2 seconds. Caverns 1:02 lol. Aztec can lose 1-2 seconds.

=9-12 more seconds :evil

Wyst3r · « **Reply #24 on:** July 14, 2007, 06:43:00 am »

Just to make things clear, 25 Depot requires PERFECT strafing, In my tas, I tried doing the very last turn with just 2-3 degrees less on the stick and i got 26. Also, i spent hours completely optimizing every turn. No human will ever do that on console.

Archives 15 is never happening without a new time saver.

Streets 1:12...MAYBE on a TAS. There's simply no way a human could ever get such an insane boost ratio needed before reaching GL. Then a full strafe headshot on him and 6 perfect GL boosts + kf7 boosts...I think the chances of 22 frigate is way higher(especially with RAyan playing).

Dam 52 aint happenin either.There's simply not enough room for improvement.

All others are possible.

Lovins · « **Reply #25 on:** July 14, 2007, 01:04:00 pm »

Well, I thought I made it pretty clear what was possible vs. what was possible but would never happen, i.e. the same ones you said

Wyst3r · « **Reply #26 on:** July 14, 2007, 01:45:00 pm »

Not really, you said "I Doubt they'll ever happen", and a maybe on Dam, I'm saying they're completely impossible.

RWG · « **Reply #27 on:** July 14, 2007, 02:12:00 pm »

Its much easier to say that Silo, Train, Control and Aztec could all lose a lot of seconds (like 1-4 probably) which would break 19:50, but who cares?

It's 19:59 or nothing, bitches!!

D N Clemens · « **Reply #28 on:** July 14, 2007, 04:40:00 pm »

Kinda funny how eddie thinks dam 52 is less insane than statue agent 218.

Lovins · « **Reply #29 on:** July 14, 2007, 05:22:00 pm »

No I didn't say that lol, I just elaborated more on Statue since I have more knowledge there, why call Dam 52 insane when I don't even have 53

D N Clemens · « **Reply #30 on:** July 14, 2007, 05:33:00 pm »

52 clearly is impossible without a gate glitch though, boosts only save like .2-.25 or so so youd need 4-5 and the most i have ever gotten is 2 (getting one on the way to the gate doesnt matter since you reach it before the guard can open the gate, and that means when you are in the tunnel, too, since you are in the area).

I would say the folliwing are the most reasonable agent untieds:

Surface 102 - still insane, might never happen, but clearly it is possible and if i had not missed one bullet on my low 103, probly woulda gotten 102.
Frigate 22- this requires insanity, but clearly it has been failed recently, so it has to be possible.
Silo 102 - well ryans start was only mediocre..i eman he had to open a door himself, so if his start would have been better, could have been 102. 102 just requires a sick run ALL ROUND, whereas his 103 was mostly just suck from half the level on.
Aztec 131- Illu had some silly stucks near the start, can see 131 here.
Control 358- Bryans first room wasnt that great. A first room as good as a 39 fast exit can easily get 358.
Caevrns 102 - meh, i actually think this is more insane than all the others. Just getting so many boosts can take 3000000 hours, and bryan told me most of his 26 (or whatever it was) 103's were very high.

maybe forgetting something, but for now those look like they have the best chance at happening.

RWG · « **Reply #31 on:** July 14, 2007, 05:55:00 pm »

heh, the start of dam and the start of silo are the exact same. It doesnt matter if it sucks a bit, as long as you reach the non-fixed part fast enough. Clearly you have no knowledge of silo A and your 1:05 must have been a fluke.

PerfectTaste · « **Reply #32 on:** July 14, 2007, 08:50:00 pm »

We know that 22 frigate fails are possible, but can the hostages actually escape that fast? I say 22 will NEVER happen.

Narigutita · « **Reply #33 on:** July 14, 2007, 09:14:00 pm »

i think in reaching great marks such as these, we need to think as champions, and dont stay with those "this will never happen" idea

RWG · « **Reply #34 on:** July 14, 2007, 09:57:00 pm »

watch Dan's 25, those hostages are clearly fast enough for 22. I know for a fact they can escape in 22 seconds.

Wouter Jansen · « **Reply #35 on:** July 14, 2007, 10:14:00 pm »

I have 22!

RWG · « **Reply #36 on:** July 14, 2007, 11:14:00 pm »

Oh yeah I came here to say Jungle 51 is the easiest agent untied right now. I have no idea why its being overlooked. It's easy for a few reasons:

a) The slap to get the AR33 is slower for agent. It's faster on SA/00A where you need like 3 body shots to kill a guy, but on agent where a strafing bodyshot gets you an AR33, its pointless to go out of your way.

b) Warping the end lift? Anyone watch Wouter's turbos? This isn't hard at all to do on normal mode anyways. Just switch to the detonator.

c) Play this @#%$ level and someone will get 51. That's all I have to say for now.

vitor · « **Reply #37 on:** July 15, 2007, 12:28:00 am »

Boohoo, I pointed out about Jungle first but no one gives a @#%$ to me :/

Narigutita · « **Reply #38 on:** July 15, 2007, 12:45:00 am »

did someone ever give a @#%$ about you?

Infected Mind · « **Reply #39 on:** July 15, 2007, 12:47:00 am »

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vitor · « **Reply #40 on:** July 15, 2007, 12:51:00 am »

Thanks. I'll send you some money later.

mrsooreams · « **Reply #41 on:** July 15, 2007, 07:38:00 am »

I do too. Cheque please?

ParaGod64 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 15, 2007, 08:58:00 am »

Boss · « **Reply #43 on:** July 15, 2007, 08:52:00 pm »

22 is plenty doable in terms of hostages escaping in time. On my 23 obj A was up for about .1 or something before I got into the boat.. though it was a .9 probably. I assume the beginning could be a bit better still, so 100% sure hostages can get away on a 22.

Narigutita · « **Reply #44 on:** July 15, 2007, 09:42:00 pm »

any idea of the rate they complete?
like.. 1/200?

octoinky · « **Reply #45 on:** July 15, 2007, 09:59:00 pm »

1/200 is once per 3 hours. If that were the case, plenty of people would have :23 by now. I'm not educated enough to toss out any other number though, but seeing as boss/ace got it faster than wouter, I'd put it more like 1/1000. (for poker nuts, thats the odds of a runner runner royal flush over flopped quads)

Lark · « **Reply #46 on:** July 15, 2007, 10:21:00 pm »

Well, it depends what time you're going for. For 23 I'm sure the odds are that bad. But for the time I"m going for, I average 2 completions every 2.5 hours or so. It's probably because I'm using 7 bullets. It really helps.

Boss · « **Reply #47 on:** July 15, 2007, 11:03:00 pm »

Yeah using 7 bullets will help compared to 8+ (2/2/3 for the guards).

Troublesome Moral Code · « **Reply #48 on:** July 15, 2007, 11:19:00 pm »

TOO MUCH TALK NOT ENOUGH PLAY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK I'VE BEEN DOING!?

*hits record and plays more*

Narigutita · « **Reply #49 on:** July 16, 2007, 01:26:00 am »

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