Funny!

[Red Bull]

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Apart from my ultimate retardedness back then (I was 14/15 dunno), I must admit, I am the ultimate psychic.

[Grags]

Lol, 26 depot impossible!!!

Man I wish i could back to them days. I'd be hailed a hero with some of my times lol

[Red Bull]

I was so progressive!

[Lovins]

Wtf, I sounded like a moron back then

[ShadowZero64]

[Wyst3r]

I still don't think 26 Depot is possible.

[vitor]

Quote:Man I wish i could back to them days. I'd be hailed a hero with some of my times lol

So would be the whole top 50 or whatever.

[Narigutita]

that kinda of thing shows those people who say 1:12 is impossible on streets

[SupaOdin]

No man streets 1:12 will never ever happen  *waits a few years*

[Narigutita]

i'll remember that!!

[Thiradell]

I see times as a lot more maxed these days then they were then. More people have played for a much longer time, and yet still only two have achieved Streets 1:13, while...more then two have gotten Depot 0:26. Not to mention that 1:14 and 0:26 are pretty much comparable times; Streets 1:12 would be like Depot 0:24 (or at least low-mid 0:25) in my mind. Which, as we all know, is impossible.

[RWG]

Streets 1:12 is possible.  MARK THESE WORDS

[vitor]

Quote:I see times as a lot more maxed these days then they were then. More people have played for a much longer time, and yet still only two have achieved Streets 1:13, while...more then two have gotten Depot 0:26. Not to mention that 1:14 and 0:26 are pretty much comparable times; Streets 1:12 would be like Depot 0:24 (or at least low-mid 0:25) in my mind. Which, as we all know, is impossible.

Yeah, you won't take off one whole second from such a small level with basically no boost spots (someone claims a boost on the start, and perhaps you can get a lucky boost from the train guards?). Even if you get those, taking off like 0.5 seconds only by strafe is out of reach, on our standards.

Streets 1:12 is way more reasonable, because:

a) it's a bigger level (almost 3 times bigger than Depot)
b) many boost spots
c) grenade launcher

I'd guess 1:11 as the limit here because of health limitations and such. But someone will get 1:12, "mark these words".

[RWG]

I might add that in order to be able to knowledgeably make statements like "such and such WR is/is not possible" you should probably be a top player, with a lot of game experience (ie: Vitor or I.)  People like us challenge these sort of barriers everytime we play and have a better idea how they work, so if you're not one of us, save yourself the embarassment.

[Wouter Jansen]

wasn't there some bug that could save 0:00 as your time? like that it restarts the timer after so long or whatever, which seems like it could be for real, since I know how programming works, and they have to hold a certain integer.. which has a max size.. if it gets there, it "restarts" at its minimum size and then keeps adding from there etc. it may just take a very long time to reach it and you'd need to know how long it takes so that you could finish at the exact right moment.

[PerfectTaste]

Judging from Trents Facility kill video that is going to take awhile..

[Grags]

Quote:wasn't there some bug that could save 0:00 as your time? like that it restarts the timer after so long or whatever, which seems like it could be for real, since I know how programming works, and they have to hold a certain integer.. which has a max size.. if it gets there, it "restarts" at its minimum size and then keeps adding from there etc. it may just take a very long time to reach it and you'd need to know how long it takes so that you could finish at the exact right moment.

I think the tiimer would most likely max at 999.99 without ever reseting. But even if it did, it could never be considered a wr or everyone would have 00:00.

[Wouter Jansen]

actually, it will probably be really rare because it may take a lifetime just to pull it off once.. it's not close to as simple as it sounds, but if it's possible, then lower is always possible UNTIL that magic 0:00 has been achieved (or LOWER, whatever the minimum is, HA)

[bcks]

Quote:I think the tiimer would most likely max at 999.99 without ever reseting.

Trents vid goes to 14,161:35 for his completion time.

[ShadowZero64]

guess it would be testable with an emulator that can be sped up?

[Narigutita]

where's the fun in that?
we wont be faster, but really, really REALLY slower :F

[TreAKAHotdog]

mark these words, streets agent 1:12 will not happen with a negative boost ratio.

[Wouter Jansen]

there was this challenge somewhere, to beat streets 00 in 40 sec

[flukey lukey]

i don't think 1:12 will ever be done.

[D N Clemens]

I think its funny how the people who play the least seem to make the most ridiculous statements about what will happen, except for Ryan White he's just naive.

[vitor]

I think it's funny how a guy who joined less than a year ago thinks he knows how this @#%$ works.

[Thiradell]

^ Maybe I learn fast.

I recognize that you guys have pushed the boundaries of this game, and I haven't. I realize you probably know more then I do. And if somebody gets Streets 1:12 while I still visit this site regularly, I'll shut up (for the most part ).

But let's consider what would be needed for 1:12. Ryan's 1:13 was 8:0, and Wouter's was like 7:0 or 8:0 (from my vague memory of the vid). Both needed about .75 faster for 1:12; this would require at least two or three more boosts, bringing the total to a ridiculous 11:0 or so, which means 5:0 not including the GL. You'd need entirely clean strafing and lookdown almost everywhere. You'd need to not get killed by the rockets (or non-backboosting Soviets, which is very rare) at the end while not jerking too much to lose too much time (which I assume you guys are pretty good at). All those things would have to coincide in a single run.

But could they? I admit I'm not confidently sure of the answer to that question. I just don't see it happening. I like to debate, and I don't think my arguments are unreasonable. I may not be as informed on the topic in question, but that doesn't mean I'm ignorant of it. And I'm not stating this as fact, I'm presenting it as my opinion.

[D N Clemens]

I just dont think anybody with 113 will ever put themselves through the amount of treachery it would take to even have a start good enough for 112, much less a run good enough for 112. Even theoretically speaking I just dont see a run good enough for 112 ever coming together. Streets is a very maxed level .

[Lovins]

I think 1:12 is clearly possible, but will also clearly never be done.

[vitor]

nicelly spoken thiradell, i agree with most you said
but i just think you guys (i don't say i cause i suck at ge, specially streets) can max the game within every turn... several sucky times were said maxed, and you guys can own it now, the same can just happen
awesome luck? of course
hard ass playing? sure!
hours and hours of boredom? what the hell!
dont know if it will be done, but i think it CAN be done, by any of top10

- Narigutita

[Wouter Jansen]

usually when times were said to be maxed, they WERE, considering the current strats and tricks. everyone seems to forget that. except of course in the very beginning when they were like villa agent 1:15 wut the fick

[bcks]

Well for one, you can possibly boost with the gl, useing a not straight at the ground method, like s1 sa/00 used to be played, or useing corner tricks, to just shave very tiny health off your life.

You could also use the b1 sa headshot method for the gl guard.  Very risky, but faster.

But you still need the guard boosts, i've had 7 and 8 boost streets agent runs before back when i sucked and my lines where shit. I think 5-6 guard boosts should be possible, but very unlikely useing the best lines and not being shit.

[TreAKAHotdog]

instead of 1:12, go for 1:02