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« on: February 24, 2007, 12:59:00 pm »
anyone notice how all the WRs discussed in the last one were pretty much insane?? Lets keep that going guys :)
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2007, 01:01:00 pm »
:rolleyes
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2007, 01:03:00 pm »
why are you so sad durk?
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2007, 01:09:00 pm »
NICE Alex that was a very nice run. most impressive :hat
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2007, 01:32:00 pm »
what the dog.. 20 days? let's predict the next one.. be tomorrow
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2007, 02:05:00 pm »
Nice 24 Alex!
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2007, 02:27:00 pm »
In reguards to the music comment in the other wr topic, it was actually Aqua LoL!


Thanks guys :D
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2007, 02:31:00 pm »
:D
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2007, 02:51:00 pm »
No one deserves that record more than you, Alex.
Great job! :D
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2007, 03:10:00 pm »
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Case and point.  That just proved everything I've been arguing on the boards over the past 12 hours.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2007, 03:35:00 pm »
Mind summing up what that was?
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2007, 03:39:00 pm »
that people deserving WRs actually happens?
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2007, 03:52:00 pm »
WAY TO GO ALEX!
Happy you finally got that, you deserve it. :D
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2007, 04:03:00 pm »
Do i deserve Archives 00 0:55?? :rolleyes :rolleyes
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2007, 04:12:00 pm »
of course adam!;)
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2007, 04:18:00 pm »
So people that take 10 hours to get 26 deserve it more than someone that got it first try?
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2007, 04:27:00 pm »
Its not exactly like that, every situation is unique, but for the most part yes.
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2007, 04:37:00 pm »
I would say that 'deserving' a WR or a PR would only apply to a time which you have played for an incredibly long time without getting the necessary conditions to complete the run. In other words, if there is a big luck factor out of your control. That wouldn't apply to a record like 26. On top of that, you would have to consistently show you have the skill to achieve that record, and when the needed conditions are finally met, you can't @#%$ up the run. Chokers don't deserve anything;)
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2007, 04:59:00 pm »
You finally got it Alex, awesome job!:smokin   And great job to Randy as well!  Comeback WR ftw!
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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2007, 05:22:00 pm »
Nice job Alex:)
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2007, 12:07:00 am »
HE DID IT! Beautiful, Alex! Such a good time.
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2007, 05:24:00 am »
That boost at the door before the exit was pretty divine.  Nice job.

And god damn, Aqua?  Get some raging Dieselboy in there or something (if you insist on electronic music.)
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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2007, 02:31:00 pm »
Another record David. Nice work.
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2007, 02:40:00 pm »
I was requested to use something happy, So I used aqua :P

All my other vids include hard pounding trance/ crazy DnB / Hardcore, and stuff usually. Or random RHCP :hat
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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2007, 02:51:00 pm »
Nice job on that Alex, about time that was tied :D
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2007, 03:04:00 pm »
OMG David...17 is sweet!!:eek :D ;)
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2007, 03:15:00 pm »
AAAA MAAAANNN!!! AAMAMAMAMAAM RAPAPAPAPAPAPAAPPAAPPAPAPA POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!!!!!11111111

EDIT: BTW in happy mood you musn'tve been to play a time of 17?

EDIT2: Maybe I should go to bed...
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2007, 04:51:00 pm »
Congrats on another 300 point stage! 17 is definatly the most overrated record though.
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2007, 04:54:00 pm »
it was never rated for ntsc.. if you are blind I'll spell it out for you: I s-t-i-l-l h-a-v-e t-h-e o-n-l-y 1-7 o-n P-A-L
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2007, 04:56:00 pm »
Yeah but I nearly got it on PAL the other day and I suck at GE. I did have 8 boosts though
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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2007, 04:57:00 pm »
But really wouters 17 doesnt even look that insane to me...only 6 boosts too. I think this pal difference stuff on bunker is all in your mind. But you got it first so thats the big thing.

But really, 17 isn't bad at all. I just had a really good run with extreme luck on the warp. I warped after the key analyzer switched, so i got lucky to be at the door when it switched. I miss that warp 99% of the time. Could have easily taken me 20 more hours.
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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2007, 05:13:00 pm »
the only thing that sucked about my run is the key pickup. and perhaps usage of cruise and not 1.2.
7 boosts is more often worse than not. shows what you know.
I will try it on ntsc, and I bet it won't take me 150 (!) hours then..
I'm guessing ntsc you're more likely to get good boosts, wasn't the theory that ntsc has more accurate guards? why would it take me so long to get 17, and every other run that was almost as fast was 18 (watch them all, there's sure as hell some better than some of the 17s..)?
also, there could be differences with the doors, it being easier to actually analyze the key in time... I remember mine was insanely lucky and that was the only time I had such an ending that it just went smoothly from analyzing to switch and warp. perhaps ntsc analyzes faster. you know NOTHING about the PAL record, you may only have seen the vid. Why don't you get PAL and prove me wrong? All us PAL players have to get NTSC, so why not vice versa? as if the NTSC advantage isn't unfair enough..
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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2007, 05:33:00 pm »
wouters 17 is the most impressive so far in my eyes...no joke. The fact that he did it PAL 1.1 cc is just unbelievable...if it wasnt for wouter I still would think 17 is near impossible on PAL:rolleyes  and Ive seen his 18's and for sure they look as good as many 17, maybe some of them would be 17 if done on ntsc? I think bunker 1 17 PAL is underrated by many:\
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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2007, 05:57:00 pm »
Don't think anyone in the elite has played PAL on a normal TV in NTSC land.. for my the screen is totally black with the sound working fine.
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2007, 06:03:00 pm »
17 was insane at the time it was gotten, time catches up things though, we've seen that on just about every level by now.
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2007, 06:08:00 pm »
Ilari, you've played the level on PAL. Do you think you could get 17 on PAL?
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« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2007, 06:11:00 pm »
Nice job Dave, my 18 prolly would've been 17 too if I had gotten that lucky key analyzer warp. :b
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« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2007, 06:34:00 pm »
nice job, can't wait to see it.:hat
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« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2007, 06:45:00 pm »
I think it's a little bit of both. PAL have some little disavantage on Bunker (which makes a lot of difference on the 17) and Wouter was also using 1.1, when 1.2 looks better for it. But also, it's just the way records get tied. You think it's totally insane when someone gets it, then everyone else starts to tieing.
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« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2007, 06:54:00 pm »
way to go dave :hat

insane!
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« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2007, 06:57:00 pm »
Yeah eddy, maybe, but that boost behind the table probably hurt you a little. but yeah if you got that warp there isnt a doubt in my mind youd get 17. however, your boosts up the stairs were at a good angle and i think you actually got to the door so early that the key didnt have time to analyze.

And actually wouter, funny you mention because i usually have the key analyze slower than @#%$. I have 2 failed 24's on sa with no door warp because the key didnt analyze, and thats with me mashing Z and only like 2 boosts or 3 so yeah.
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« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2007, 07:02:00 pm »
Wouters 17 is the only run worthy of being a 17.
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« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2007, 07:07:00 pm »
So I guess my 16 is the only 16 worthy of being 16 since it took me like 20 hours.
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« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2007, 07:28:00 pm »
Nice work Clemens, you got lucky, but still, a record is a record.
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« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2007, 07:30:00 pm »
Nice job on that 17!
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« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2007, 07:36:00 pm »
If you guys knew ANYTHING at all, 1.1 has a horrible disadvantage compared to 1.2.  I'm sure if Wouter tried 1.2 PAL and 1.1 NTSC the results would be similar anyways.

I can't tell since obv I dont have PAL but yeah 1.1 really sucks ass on B1 and I know how insane Wouter's run is given he did it 1.1.  I can't judge how crazy PAL is, and neither can anyone who has NEVER done b1 17 with PAL (no one other than Wouter can judge)

just shut up everyone you suck

but Clemens you're awesome, gj man =)
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« Reply #46 on: February 26, 2007, 07:37:00 pm »
Thanks ;) . And yeah you make good points. I guess I shouldnt have really made any comments regarding wouter and 17 since well, i havent played PAL and shouldnt talk.
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« Reply #47 on: February 26, 2007, 08:01:00 pm »
finally a post I can agree with there.

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shows how much you know again. if you tap Z, it will slow it down immensely. so of course you'd get slow analyzes. you must just press Z, wait a bit (try not to press again before it's actually done), then another Z to throw. tapping is actually very evil here..

and yea, I think 1.2 may be a factor in me having had a very hard time with it, (am I the only one that got it with 1.1 aswell, even if using CC?) but I also think NTSC has a slight advantage, and when a level is so small, the smallest things help immensely..
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« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2007, 08:05:00 pm »
1.2 can no doubt get the key by boris faster since you can make sharper turns. Also, you can switch to look down faster which may save a few thousandths or something. Everyone besides you used 1.2 , i am almost sure. Whites is the only 1.1 player, but it looks like he switches from taking the pic to lookdown real fast, so i am guessing he used 1.2
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« Reply #49 on: February 26, 2007, 08:25:00 pm »
yeah my first 17 which is unproven, was 1.1 CC and my 2nd was with 1.2
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